let alone Daniel Johns, but all this shit about Davey Havok, is'nt he gay too, well, theres a pic of him and his lead guitarist Jade Puget kissing on stage, but what do I know, that could be some kind of gimmick, if he's not gay he's at least bi, because he almost looks like a girl and impersonates Madonna.. yea afi are a good band and everything despite Daves sexuality...but man it's seriously confusing. but i'm straight and i even find him hot so i guess it's a good thing when you can attract both members of the opposite sex HAHA